If you had the guts for M-19's

**Cal Weldon** · November 21st, 2012, 06:52 PM

vott: That second pic is spot on. Thanks very much.

bowtie: glad to hear you like them. Even after David Lee passed away a year ago [or so] and they closed shop, the rest of the gang recruited the original owner Tom to start it back up again. They've always been good to me and yes I believe you are right about their quality and them sourcing the right parts.

**Cal Weldon** · November 21st, 2012, 06:55 PM

I am now turning my thinking toward a modified Stanley screamer. The 416's with 604-8H's. Now back to the choice of cabinet...

**valhallax** · November 21st, 2012, 10:00 PM

i would start by at least doubleing the woofers

**Cal Weldon** · November 22nd, 2012, 09:59 PM

I have some thumper Selenium woofers I could use. Two of them and a 604? XO at about 100Hz 24dB?

**westend9** · November 23rd, 2012, 08:53 AM

Originally Posted by Cal Weldon

I am now turning my thinking toward a modified Stanley screamer. The 416's with 604-8H's. Now back to the choice of cabinet...

Cal, I bet if you ask real nice and GM is interested in finding a solution, maybe he'd model a TL or MLTL for your 416's. I have no experience with that woofer so can't say if it's good bad, or ugly but it's an Altec of 15" so it has to be fairly good.

I am still amazed at the effortless low end of the MLTL cabinet. The stock cab with 416b has that West coast bump around 100hz, not objectionable to me and great for rock. The MLTL reaches much lower, the bump is gone, and the roll off is one of the best on the lower end. I haven't measured the response, yet, because I feel no pressing need. It's actually difficult to find tracks that challenge the lower end of the MLTL. It was shocking when I first heard it and still is a treat.

Good luck on whatever you choose, it's Altec so it is going to be good.

**Cal Weldon** · November 23rd, 2012, 11:35 AM

Hi westend,

I agree that it will be a good project in the end. I am still up in the air as to what to do so I'm just going to sit on it for now.

I have recruited Mr. M on another forum. He has been invaluable in the past and continues to be for so many things.

GM · November 25th, 2012, 02:24 AM

Where? I must have either missed it or forgot to make a note of it.

GM

**Old Guy** · November 25th, 2012, 06:30 AM

Originally Posted by Cal Weldon

I am now turning my thinking toward a modified Stanley screamer. The 416's with 604-8H's. Now back to the choice of cabinet...

I prefer a center sub, as having two can result in phase cancellations...there was a 927 on FeePay recently...didn't sell seller might still have... has a .35 inch xMax. Rare bird deserves a nice home....

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